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Windf0rce · Nov 11, 2008, 09:49 AM // 09:49

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A11Eur0 · Nov 11, 2008, 09:53 AM // 09:53

Takes 3 seconds to hit H, scroll to your title, and click a box. it doesn't display anyway. Lazy people, i swear.

/notsigned. They have better things to worry about.

Haxor · Nov 11, 2008, 10:08 AM // 10:08

/Signed for the simple fact that I usually forget to put the titles on.

SmokingHotImolation · Nov 11, 2008, 10:20 AM // 10:20

You sir, are taking laziness to a whole new level.
/notsigned

Arduin · Nov 11, 2008, 10:20 AM // 10:20

Simple: The Lightbringer title does only extra damage on demons because they can see your level of Lightbringer, thereby increasing their fear for you, making you do more damage to them. How would the demons know how badass you are if you don't wear your title?

Same goes for Asuran. In order to be granted the energy boost by the Eternal Alchemical Cycle, the title has to be displayed beneath your character. How ever could the Eternal Alchemical Cycle acknowledge your rank without you showing it? It can't push 'h' to look up your hero title.

Same goes for Deldrimor (destroyers) and Vanguard (charr).

All in all, I think displaying titles is a vital game concept. Asking to have it removed would be futile, because in doing so, the precious game balance Anet holds would be even further out of whack.

So, /notsigned

caballo_oscuro · Nov 11, 2008, 10:24 AM // 10:24

/notsigned

The purpose of having the extra benefits conferred and displaying your title was in order to encourage people to try to improve their titles and acquire more of them.

If you don't want the particular benefit, don't use the title. Don't chase title points and don't complain that the title is needed to get the benefits.

Luminarus · Nov 11, 2008, 10:28 AM // 10:28

It annoys me to have to change the titles, so im not going to notsigned this however, it isnt that big a deal so im not going to sign it either.

realtalk916 · Nov 11, 2008, 10:29 AM // 10:29

i try my best to reason with peoples ideas, and im usually a signer

bad idea though, whats the problem with the bonuses, not like you need em anyway, as others said, dont use em if you don't wanna put the effort in clicking a few times. super lazy. im somewhat offended by your post lol

/notsigned

i'd laugh if you thought people would be on your side with this

Mayda · Nov 11, 2008, 10:34 AM // 10:34

it would cause a disballance too, as now in some asuran areas, you have to choose between asuran and deldrimor boost, when fighting destroyers, and automatic boost would grant you both

Numa Pompilius · Nov 11, 2008, 10:45 AM // 10:45

/signed.

It does not make sense from a lore POV that you need to chose which title to wear.

The demons are not impressed by your title, they are damaged by the fact that you're the Chosen One, the Lightbringer, who is prophecied to defeat them and who hold supernatural power over them.

Same goes for your reputation among Asura, Norn, Vanguard. It's not like they don't recognize your leetness if you're not wearing your nametag. Should be automatic.

Also yeah, it is annoying to switch between titles. Ideally I'd not want any titles with in-game effect, but if there must be they should at least be automatic.

Konig Des Todes · Nov 11, 2008, 10:51 AM // 10:51

/notsigned

Why?

Because, as Mayda said, it would give you multiple benefits in EN.

Also, and more importantly.... I don't want my screen cluttered with 5 different effects at all times.

While from a lore perspective it doesn't make since, it would prove too OP'ed in EN and too annoying.

If the EN titles didn't have effects, meaning it was just Lightbringer, I'd sign. If you remove those little boxes, I'll be on the fence, and probably end up signing. But as it stands, with just adding the multiple bonuses at all times, I'll /notsign.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arduinna

Simple: The Lightbringer title does only extra damage on demons because they can see your level of Lightbringer, thereby increasing their fear for you, making you do more damage to them. How would the demons know how badass you are if you don't wear your title?

Same goes for Asuran. In order to be granted the energy boost by the Eternal Alchemical Cycle, the title has to be displayed beneath your character. How ever could the Eternal Alchemical Cycle acknowledge your rank without you showing it? It can't push 'h' to look up your hero title.

Same goes for Deldrimor (destroyers) and Vanguard (charr).

All in all, I think displaying titles is a vital game concept. Asking to have it removed would be futile, because in doing so, the precious game balance Anet holds would be even further out of whack.

You are taking Lore and combining it with Game Mechanics. Look at the Shing Jea Sherman. He talks about any title you have, whether displayed or not, that is how titles would work in a lore sense. Basically, all are shown at all times.

Also, @ Numa, the Lightbringer has 100% nothing to do with a prophecy or being "the Chosen One," it's just a power granted by the Order of Whispers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seeker of Whispers(removed game mechanic talk)

We are all Lightbringers...if we choose to be. A Lightbringer is someone who serves as a beacon to others, illuminating the way of righteousness in these dark times. Demons walk these lands. It is the duty of the willing to drive them back to the cold crypts from whence they came.

Once you gain a high enough rank, you will be taught skills known only to the Order of Whispers.

If you wish to rise quickly as a Lightbringer, heed the advice of Whispers informants you encounter. Through their teachings you will hone your craft.

Windf0rce · Nov 11, 2008, 10:56 AM // 10:56

It seems most people misunderstood, I'm not complaining about the bonuses, but the fact the title must be displayed for the bonuses to activate makes no sense at all.

If there wasn't the need to display the title (i.e. was automatic in the first place), I doubt anyone would welcome a change such as "now you must display your title to earn the benefits in specific areas". Bet 100% of people would QQ about it.

Not being lazy either, I do change my titles every time I hit a different area. It's just not practical at all.

Edit: yes you do raise a point about titles granting multiple benefits if it was automatic, but it would be hardly game-breaking. Look at consumables, those are a joke, and far more game breaking than any title bonus could ever hope to be even if stacked together.

Numa Pompilius · Nov 11, 2008, 11:03 AM // 11:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

Lightbringer has 100% nothing to do with a prophecy or being "the Chosen One," it's just a power granted by the Order of Whispers.

Still not something you'd need to wear a badge to inform the monsters of.

caballo_oscuro · Nov 11, 2008, 11:29 AM // 11:29

As I said above, the facility of bonuses was integrated into NF and EN in order to encourage people to work on a particular and specific title.

If you removed that particular facet of the equation, you would not encourage people to acquire the particular titles. People who don't get it straight away learn that "Ooh, if I display this title while I have a LB bonus on it'll make it easier to kill the things which give me LB points, I get it now!"

It also encourages people to explore the areas where these titles are gained, thus increasing the liklihood the person will see benefits in other, more grind-based titles such as the mapping and vanquishing titles, therefore accruing indirect benefits.

So removing the need to switch between these titles removes the benefit to people actually learning the game mechanics. It's a simple and elegant piece of the game.

Shadowhaze · Nov 11, 2008, 11:42 AM // 11:42

/signed

I usually forget to put it on. XD

SkekSister · Nov 11, 2008, 11:44 AM // 11:44

Personally I prefer the challenge of NOT using these title based bonuses. I like hard mode as hard as I can make it. No cons, no titles.

Please don't take that choice away from me.

/notsigned

miskav · Nov 11, 2008, 12:13 PM // 12:13

I'm lazy aswell, but not this lazy. (It takes 2-3 seconds to put the title on).
/Notsigned

DarkGanni · Nov 11, 2008, 01:05 PM // 13:05

Knew I was a lazy bastard but not to this point.

/notsigned

Windf0rce · Nov 11, 2008, 01:26 PM // 13:26

I give up on GW Guru people.

It is not about being lazy, or sloth, for god's sake! What NO ONE understood is, if there wasn't a requirement to select the boxes in the first place, no one would miss it.

I kind of rage'd, lol.

SkekSister · Nov 11, 2008, 01:45 PM // 13:45

In as far as you say no one got what you were saying, and that you were actually asking a rhetorical question, then you should have used a different title for your thread. It sounds very much like you are making a gameplay suggestion.

Even so the question you say you are asking

"If it had never been implimented in so and so manner, would you miss it?"

How could you miss something that you never had?